So, maybe no crabs? The last test here (on 10/12/16) had bad crab at the Russian River and at Bodega Head. Three of twelve crabs exceeded the minimum. I guess water temp has no bearing, since colder water has been the rule here. They may open it with the admonition to clean before cooking, but it doesn't look good. Fingers crossed. ....
The rockfishing is good, at least. Today Gage and I went out in the afternoon and fished in 150 feet of water off of Bird Rock. The large South swell and weird South drift made it tough, as well as the touch screen GPS not liking rain on the screen. Luckily the lingcod didn't care. Three drifts for 90 minutes total provided 14 rockfish and 6 lingcod, plus at least 8 more keeper lings returned. We quit not because of the rain but because we couldn't take returning any more lingcod. It is hard to throw back keepers. It was raining, so it was hard to tell, but I think that Gage may have been tearing up.
Thursday, October 27, 2016
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Here’s a idea, I’ve had my kids and my life insurance is paid up, I’ll be the pig-in-a-minefield and serve as the sole designated crabber for the first week. After that if I’m still hale and hearty then open the season to all y’all.
I'll volunteer for that duty as well. We all have been eating DA all along. It's in all sea life, always has been and always will be. It's part of the food chain.
Swim baits?
Agreed. This whole thing is a crock. Nobody has ever been sick from eating a DA crab.
I told you guys before they dont want u fishing they want government jobs studying the fish way more money in that
Swim baits and unattended shrimp flies (feathers). Turn your back on the shrimp flies in the rod holder and suddenly the rod is doubled over with a rockfish plus hitchhiker. Two of the keeper lings had chew marks on them from hitchhikers. About half of our rockfish looked like we dug them out of the garbage disposal.
Two minutes of research...
In Canada in late 1987 there was an outbreak of an acute illness characterized by gastrointestinal symptoms and unusual neurologic abnormalities among persons who had eaten cultivated mussels. Health departments in Canada solicited reports of this newly recognized illness. A case was defined as the occurrence of gastrointestinal symptoms within 24 hours or of neurologic symptoms within 48 hours of the ingestion of mussels.
From the more than 250 reports received, 107 patients met the case definition. The most common symptoms were vomiting (in 76 percent of the patients), abdominal cramps (50 percent), diarrhea (42 percent), headache, often described as incapacitating (43 percent), and loss of short-term memory (25 percent). Nineteen patients were hospitalized, of whom 12 required intensive care because of seizures, coma, profuse respiratory secretions, or unstable blood pressure. Male sex and increasing age were associated independently with the risks of hospitalization and memory loss. Three patients died.
Mussels associated with this illness were traced to cultivation beds in three river estuaries on the eastern coast of Prince Edward Island. Domoic acid, which can act as an excitatory neurotransmitter, was identified in mussels left uneaten by the patients and in mussels sampled from these estuaries. The source of the domoic acid appears to have been a form of marine vegetation, Nitzschia pungens, also identified in these waters in late 1987. The contaminated mussels from Prince Edward Island were removed from the market, and no new cases have occurred since December 1987.
We conclude that the cause of this outbreak of a novel and severe intoxication was the ingestion of mussels contaminated by domoic acid, a potent excitatory neurotransmitter. (N Engl J Med 1990; 322:1775–80.)
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, CHUG DOMOIC ACID!!!
There is a reason why they changed their name from dept of fish a game to dept of fish and wildlife. Trust me this government does not want you hunting and fishing. The way to stop it is doing exactly what they are doing.
Lets have hilary, jerry brown, obama all be the guinea pigs to try out the crab.
I'd rather use them as crab bait
Eric, The Secret Service is looking for you...
Willy, Any word on the Crab opener? Are we still a go?
I have heard that we will probably open on time with a warning to clean before cooking, and that the commercial guys will be waiting a bit longer. I think that the CDFW or CDPH is waiting for one more set of tests before they make the call. If the crabs get no worse, I think we'll have an opener with with an *.
* clean before cooking and go without the butter
Hey Eric chill out, that's a joke son. I'm with ya on using politicians as crab bait. Maybe even the crabs wouldn't eat them. Remember this is a family friendly forum, watch the language.
I was joking also man
Probably the crabs wouldn't eat them. Especially hillary
Steam vs boil ?
Boil with the guts in! adds flavor. I have tried every way guts in, guts out, boil, steam. My family's preference is: boil water with lots of salt, add crabs, (my pot is big enough for 10 crabs) bring back to boil. Boil for 15 min, right away back in the cooler covered with ice. Serve with olive oil and lemon and salt and pepper, or on top of a good salad with hot sourdough bread.
Has anyone else heard of a big swell coming late this week?
I do it just as my family always has boil live and whole for 17 to 20 minutes. Serve with garlic butter and good french bread. I'll probably follow the advisory on cleaning before cooking this year though
We should see if wiki leaks or the fbi can look into dfg emails we know they are crroks too
I respect the commercial guys but in a selfish way would be happy for a longer sportie-only window. I promise not to take too much.
So a little info behind westside ramp but dont quote me. It will open saturday and close monday. They work on it during the week. The reason that ots not ooen is pretty stupid. Some hillary supporter was out there when they pulled the old dock. It was full of crab smolts and the contractor dragged it across the parking lot dumping crab that were then run over by the gradeall. Ouch. Hmm fines
I just looked on the west side webpage and yes abfish it's true they will be opening for the weekend. Awesome news now lets just hope the weather plays nice.
huge swell brewing, nobody's fishing Saturday.
Yeah i seen that but it looks to be a big lazy long period swell. We'll see as the week progresses. Weather reports are wrong often.
My wave bunion tells me no boats with sane pilots will be crossing the bar of Tomales Bay until Monday at the earliest due to the swell. And if anyone goes out of Bodega, careful not to take the shortcut between Bodega Island and the Head! No one wants a repeat of the tragedy on the season opener two years ago.
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/3053841-181/pd-default-story-headline-xy
And for anyone looking for a method to cook their crabs without the guts, here's the official Shrimp Boat Method, for whatever its worth:
- dump your crabs from the bucket onto a non sandy surface. A picnic table works well. Watch for runners.
- grab a flat head shovel if you have one and use it to cut the crab in half the long way. Place the shovel at the center line of the crab and hold it there a moment, and then push through in one motion. If you don't have a shovel handy, a knife or especially a cleaver works well too but its harder to cut the crab in a single motion.
- clean the crab halves by pulling off the shell and the gills and then you can get rid of most of the goo/butter by giving it a good strong flick. When you're done your crab halves will be like little crab lollypops with half a crab body and half the legs and nothing else. Rinse off any sand, butter and rust flakes.
- steam in a pot with as little water as possible, like an inch or so. For bonus points use salt water from in front of the landing. Depending on how many crabs 16 to 18 minutes.
- serve hot! Cold crab is sacrilege.
Great words shrimp boat! No crab is worth risking health or life, maybe a salmon but NO crab is worth it.
Common sense folks! If it's too risky there is always another day.
SB - that is exactly how we do our crabs, I don't know why but they are always better with some Tamales salt water.....steamed. No crab butter or duck butter for me....
The bay is going to be crowded....plan C is to buy some crabs:(
I saw this of the DFG web site. Is rock crab open, looks like its been open for awhile. I guess Red crab is still closed.
Dungeness and Rock Crab Fisheries: Open and Closed Ocean Waters
Recreational Fisheries for Dungeness Crab and Rock Crab
•The recreational fishery for all rock crab species is open statewide. North of Pigeon Point, San Mateo County the California Department of Public Health (CDPH) advises that consumers not eat the viscera (internal organs, also known as "butter" or "guts") of crabs. The viscera usually contain much higher levels of domoic acid than crab body meat. Review recent changes to recreational crab fishing regulations.
Then on another link I read this...
Date: 10/26/2016
Number: 16-066
Contact: Ali Bay, (916) 440-7259
SACRAMENTO
The California Department of Public Health (CDPH) has lifted the health advisory for rock crabs and bivalve shellfish caught in Monterey Bay and portions of Half Moon Bay. The advisory was lifted due to recent tests showing that traces of domoic acid have declined to low or undetectable levels in rock crabs and bivalve shellfish caught in the area.
The advisory issued on August 19, 2016 was for rock crabs and bivalve shellfish caught in state waters south of Latitude 37° 11′ N. (near Pigeon Point) and north of Latitude 36° 35′ N (near Cypress Point in Monterey County).
The advisory and fishery closure remains in effect for rock crabs caught in state waters north of Latitude 37° 11′ N. (near Pigeon Point).
WHAT GIVES??
Have you seen the latest round of DA test results? Russian river and the head have crab over 30ppm. Fml
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